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<p><em>Can you tell the readers of New Vistas about your career before
you set out on a PhD at the University of West London?</em></p>
<p>As an eighteen-year-old school leaver I went straight into the music
business. Mostly I worked as a backing singer, either on recording
sessions or touring with bands. After several years I began doing vocal
coaching as well, which I absolutely loved. I became particularly
interested in the psychology of performance. After the birth of my first
child, I realized that the touring aspect of my music career was not
compatible with the stability I wanted to provide as a mother, and I was
looking for a change. Around this time, I also set up a community choir,
which is still going strong, and I wanted to do something that could
bring together these interests. So, the day before the UCAS deadline
expired I applied and was accepted onto the Psychology degree at UWL,
starting the course in 2015.</p>
<p><em>So, was it at UWL that you began linking psychology and music in
terms of research?</em></p>
<p>Yes. By the third year of my degree, I had realized that I did not
want to be a psychotherapist, but I was enthused by the research I did
for my undergraduate dissertation on the benefits of group singing. It
made me realize that I did not have to choose between psychology and
music, that I could combine them, developing new interdisciplinary
knowledge. This, in turn, led me to an MA in Music Psychology at
Sheffield in 2019. The two years that I was there coincided with the
murder of George Floyd and the subsequent explosion of the Black Lives
Matter movement and associated discourses. Those events prompted me to
see how prevalent issues around ‘race’, identity, power, and structural
inequality really are; that they resonated with my own life experiences,
even if I had previously been reluctant to fully accept or express this.
Even studying in a friendly music department, I realized that the works
and musicians who were held up as exemplars never looked like me. This
started me down the path of research into inequalities in music
education, interviewing staff and students on their perspectives. It was
this MA dissertation that ultimately led me back to UWL to undertake a
doctorate.</p>
<p><em>Can you give us the potted version of your PhD research, perhaps
beginning with the ‘problem’ that you would like your research to fix,
through policy and/or practice?</em></p>
<p>Research from the United States indicates that a culture of whiteness
in western music education, which favours Eurocentric ideals, creates
barriers for Black students and ill-prepares future music educators to
meet the needs of an increasingly diverse studentship (Bradley,
2007).  However, research on race and music education in the UK is
lacking.  My earlier research (Hendry, 2021) revealed that Black music
students, music professionals and music educators in the UK
experience several adverse psychological consequences arising from
barriers in music education and the music industry. These include having
to adopt multiple identities, low self-belief, stress and mental
pressure and a strong sense of ‘not fitting in’.  Educators for social
justice note that the curriculum has not adapted to the multiculturalism
that exists in post-colonial England (Gillborn, 2005, Alexander et al.,
2015). Music, like many subjects, excludes the experiences, history and
culture of Black Britons, perpetuating systemic racism.</p>
<p><em>So, in this sense, music education in the UK mirrors the issues
that may be affecting outcomes for ‘global majority’ students within the
wider education sector?</em></p>
<p>Yes. A growing body of research postulates a strong link between
classical music and the white, middle-classes (Bull, 2019; Nwanoku,
2019; Ross, 2020). Simultaneously, a domination of classical music in
the western music curriculum is widely reported (Bradley, 2007;
Westerlund et al., 2017; Warwick, 2020). It seems necessary to
contemplate what this may mean for the personal and musical identities
of Black students, however, few studies have focused on race issues in
music education, highlighting a gap in the literature which my research
seeks to address. Music education, like the rest of the national
curriculum, has some way to go to be considered diverse, inclusive and
reflective of today’s pupils in the UK.</p>
<p>Whilst some of these arguments point to issues of intersectionality
regarding class and race from a socioeconomic perspective, Scharff
(2015) posits that bigger than issues such as not being able to afford
musical instrument lessons, is the cultural incongruence that students
of colour experience between music education culture and their home
cultures. A culture of whiteness in music education may well cause
non-white students to either conform to norms incongruent with their own
culture or opt out of music altogether (Bradley, 2007) suggesting that
personal and musical behaviour can also be affected. Their sense of
belonging is challenged, and their mental health and wellbeing impacted
by the barriers that a Eurocentric music curriculum presents (Bradley,
2007; Hendry, 2021).</p>
<p><em>Why study Black children and not all ethnic minority
groups?</em></p>
<p>Black pupils have the lowest pass rate for GCSE English and Maths
combined. In 2018/19, across the Black major ethnic groups, 59% of
pupils attained a standard pass in these subjects. This is the lowest
rate for any major ethnic group (Roberts &amp; Bolton, 2020). Although
access to higher education has increased for people from Black ethnic
groups, their access to ‘prestigious’ universities is the lowest of all
ethnic groups and Black students are also less likely to stay in higher
education (Roberts &amp; Bolton, 2020) or continue to postgraduate
level, in particular to PhD (Office for Students, 2020). My previous
research (Hendry, 2021) identified that whilst the studied population
came under the umbrella term BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic),
the experiences of participants in relation to music education within
various categories of BAME were very different. For example, children
from an Asian ethnic background tended to sit within a higher social
class according to the measure used and have more access to instrumental
lessons than those from a Black African or Caribbean background. Results
suggested that the needs within BAME groups are different and require
individual focused research and subsequent interventions. For this
reason, my research has focused on Black secondary school children.</p>
<p><em>This seems like an opportune juncture to discuss your
‘positionality’ as a researcher.</em></p>
<p>In addition to the evidence in the literature, which suggests that
Black children’s personal and academic development is adversely affected
by the status quo, my own personal experiences as a Black mixed-race
female who grew up in the UK education system and works professionally
in the music industry are relevant.   Researchers examining the personal
experiences of mixed-race people have shown that they have historically
received much of the same type of racial discrimination as Black people,
including name-calling, differential treatment and stereotyping in their
everyday lives (Tizard &amp; Phoenix, 2002). Positionality can both help
and hinder research. Obviously, reflexivity has been a necessary process
for the duration of the project. Work carried out by interpretive
researchers can never be value-neutral, not solely because by its nature
the researcher’s own interpretations are necessary, but also because
qualitative researchers often have personal experience of the area of
study and practices being researched. However, this can be of benefit. 
Being an outsider-insider, that is studying from the outside a context
you have inside experience with, can be valuable in that it opens doors
and allows greater understanding and empathy (Dwyer &amp; Buckle,
2009).  </p>
<p><em><strong>How do you perceive the best way forward in terms of
music education?</strong></em></p>
<p>I contend that ‘racial literacy’ is key. Research suggests that
proposed solutions for a more diverse and inclusive music curriculum
should take a departure from pluralism, widening musical styles to add
other genres such as modern pop music (Green, 2002) and multicultural
perspectives, which have been criticised as tokenistic attempts at a
more inclusive and socially-just music syllabus (Bradley, 2006; 2007).
Both strategies buy into a kind of colour-blindness theoretical
framework. A colour-blind perspective can cause further damage to
diversity practices and the students they seek to serve (Zamudio et al.,
2010).  Morrison (1992) claimed that though often thought of as a
gesture of grace and liberalism, leaving race and colour unacknowledged
simply discredits difference. Academics in support of promoting social
justice in US music education believe an anti-racist stance is
necessary. They posit that only then will the door be opened to wider
representation in music education pedagogy, content and teacher
workforce to reflect and validate the current studentship (Bradley,
2007; Bates, 2019).  </p>
<p>Whilst investigating race in Britain, Twine (2004) offered the
concept of racial literacy which she determines as a kind of anti-racist
language based around direct and open discourse. Racial literacy
encourages students and educators to examine their own experiences and
beliefs as well as the wider institutions they operate within to
identify and explore the existence of racism and to consider the effects
of the constructs of race (Sealy-Ruiz, 2021). Racial literacy empowers
educators and students to recognise and interrupt racism on a personal
and systemic level (Sealey-Ruiz, 2020 as cited in Sealy-Ruiz, 2021).
Fundamentally, the concept of racial literacy is to encourage open and
direct discourse on race and in doing so promote action that is
anti-racist.</p>
<p>My research has sought, firstly, to find out about the experiences of
Black pupils in UK music education from the pupils themselves, as well
as from music educators and other stakeholders in music education.
Secondly, I have analysed the experiences gathered alongside the
strengths and pitfalls of previous interventions, to form the basis of a
meaningful blueprint of recommended practice for a racially literate and
equitable music education system. The primary purpose of this research
is to construct a framework informed by pupils, educators and
stakeholders, grounded in racial literacy to promote a sense of
belonging and identity for Black children in the music classroom, but in
actuality is likely to benefit <em>all</em> children. Recent research
has shown for example that learning outcomes of all children, not just
those from an ethnic minority background, are positively affected by a
diverse teacher workforce (White et al., 2020). This study hopes to
produce a dynamic and flexible framework that can potentially be used in
other educational contexts, though purposed for music education.</p>
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